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Power Against Trolls

Individuals should not have to fight trolls alone...
Everything that a troll does is processable.

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Power Against Trolls (P.A.T.)

Individuals should not have to fight trolls alone...
Everything that a troll does is processable.
For our purposes, troll behaviors will be categorized around the following:
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Troll the ancient Net-tide carol - dealing with on-line maliciousness

Started by Jerry Dunham. Last reply by Vincent Wright Jun 2, 2011. 1 Reply

Internet TrollsLet's start with what may be obvious to most of us, but not to all.  What is a troll?In an online community, a troll is someone who goes looking for a fight, just for the sake of the…Continue

Power Against Trolls (P.A.T.)

Started by Vincent Wright May 3, 2011. 0 Replies

Individuals should not have to fight trolls alone...Everything that a troll does is processable.For our purposes, troll behaviors will be categorized around the…Continue

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Comment by Vincent Wright on June 2, 2011 at 3:05pm

Thanks, Jerry!

You handled your first post on MyLinkingPowerForum.com wonderfully well! I encourage all our members to read it at: http://mylinkingpowerforum.ning.com/group/PowerAgainstTrolls/forum/... 

Comment by Jerry Dunham on June 2, 2011 at 2:50pm

Okay, done.  This is my first attempt at a discussion on mylinkingpowerforum.com, so I hope I handled it correctly.  We'll see whether anyone finds it of interest.

Trolls are the bane of all online communities, so I hope your efforts pay off, and at least your community learns how to deal with these misguided folks.

Comment by Vincent Wright on June 2, 2011 at 2:19pm

Jerry,

If I may, I think we could get more power out of your comment if it were a discussion.   To post it as a discussion, may I ask you to cut and paste it to here: http://mylinkingpowerforum.ning.com/group/PowerAgainstTrolls/forum/... 

Comment by Jerry Dunham on June 2, 2011 at 2:15pm

Let's start with what may be obvious to most of us.  What is a troll?

In an online community, a troll is someone who goes looking for a fight, just for the sake of the fight.  They generally post inflammatory comments in the hope that someone will bite.  Once they have a willing adversary (or unwilling, but at least responsive) they're off to the races.  If anyone steps in to defend the original responder, that person also becomes a target.  The troll soon makes the targetted community such an unpleasant place that members either drop out or quit reading messages.

Most responders are no match for an experienced troll, and the troll can soon trot off with a perceived "victory", looking for the next opportunity to prove his or her superiority.  Sometimes responders don't roll over so easily, and that can result in the troll becoming obsessed with bringing the victim to his or her virtual knees.  These are cases that may escalate into virtual stalking.

Trolls are driven to win, and to prove that they are superior to their victims.  To a troll, all means to their end are justified, because they know they are right.  Never underestimate the viciousness you can uncover by crossing swords with a troll.

Comment by Vincent Wright on June 2, 2011 at 1:54pm

Jerry,

Thanks kindly for your informed response.  There's a LOT in your response which are worthy of being separated out into instructional posts...so, I intend to revisit it more than once...

 

Comment by Jerry Dunham on June 2, 2011 at 1:46pm

The trolls have been with us for what seems like forever.   I first met them in the 1980s, before many of you knew what the Internet was.  Over time they've gotten more numerous and nastier, so I don't think anything we do will make them disappear.  That said, NOT doing anything is not acceptable, and only emboldens them.

We have to recognize that this world has always contained, and will always contain, people for whom damaging others is a significant life goal.  Maintaining a civil society requires that the rest of us be willing to work to contain and limit the damage such people do.  In this, online communities are no different from any community of people.

One thing we can do, and I hope this group will contribute, is to educate our online communities so that trolls are quickly recognized and marginalized.  Where possible, they should simply be dropped from online communities.  Where that's not possible, they should be ignored.  Online trolls live to elicit responses from people, particularly negative responses.  When they receive no response at all many will simply take their venom elsewhere.

The situation Tim describes below is more than simple trolling.  When trolling escalates to that level it becomes a form of stalking, and is much more damaging.  You can't make such a person go away by ignoring them, and have no choice but to fight back, in the courts if necessary.

Comment by Vincent Wright on June 2, 2011 at 1:36pm
You're welcomed, Jessan...(When it comes to dealing with abusive people, that image always brightens my day, too! :-))
Comment by Vincent Wright on June 2, 2011 at 1:30pm

Jessan,

You're the best!

(And I agree with you, it's too bad that such a group is necessary.)

Comment by Vincent Wright on May 3, 2011 at 10:16am

Tim,

Great to have you here with us - and I greatly appreciate your perspective and experience with the issue...

While I categorize trolling as an irrational, purposeless act, I intend to find purposeful and rational remedies against the damage which trolls can inflict...

 

(I'll inbox you a thought or two...)

 

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